EAST LANSING, MICH. - MSU police and the FBI spent two weeks earlier this year interviewing eight university employees about what, if anything, they knew about early sexual assault allegations against Larry Nassar.
Michigan State University disclosed the investigation for the first time Nov. 22 in the hours after Nassar pleaded guilty to sexual assault charges, a court hearing that sparked renewed calls for independent investigations of what MSU officials knew and when.
The report was given to the FBI for review by federal prosecutors by MSU police on April 27, according to documents the State Journal obtained in a public records request from MSU.
It's unclear if that investigation has been reviewed by prosecutors.
Several messages seeking comment from the U.S. Attorney's Office and the FBI have not been returned. University spokesman Jason Cody said in November that MSU had "no reason to believe that any criminal conduct was found."
The investigation began as police tried to determine if any procedures or guidelines were put in place after a 2014 Title IX investigation cleared Nassar and whether those procedures or guidelines were communicated and followed, according to the report. It was expanded to look at whether any criminal statues were violated by anyone other than Nassar, according to the report.
It's difficult to draw many conclusions from the report, other than the fact that the procedures put in place weren't widely communicated and those interviewed said they hadn't heard sexual assault allegations against Nassar prior to 2016.
8 interviews, two weeks
Larry Nassar's former bosses, physicians who worked alongside the disgraced former doctor and MSU Athletic Director Mark Hollis were interviewed by law enforcement as part of the investigation earlier this year.
The interviews, conducted by MSU police and an FBI agent, took place across MSU's campus over the course of two weeks in March, records show. The investigation was not connected to a criminal investigation into allegations of sexual assault by Nassar conducted by MSU police in 2014-15.
The newly released MSU police report details aspects of the investigation into whether anyone else at the university other than Nassar engaged in criminal conduct.
The 19-page police report indicates that law enforcement identified 10 witnesses, but the police report includes interviews with eight.
The two people identified as witnesses who weren't interviewed are Kristine Moore and Brooke Lemmen.
Moore is the former Title IX investigator who handled the 2014 complaint against Nassar and now works in MSU's Office of General Counsel. Moore cleared Nassar of policy violations after a three-month investigation prompted by a female patient reporting that Nassar sexually assaulted her during a medical appointment.
Lemmen is a former MSU doctor who resigned after the university said she removed patient files at Nassar's request while he was being investigated for sexual assault. Lemmen was interviewed by Moore during the 2014 Title IX investigation and defended Nassar.
However, it appears MSU police did interview Lemmen at one point. A police report referenced in the 19-page report released this week indicates Moore was interviewed during a 2016 sexual assault investigation. The details of that case are not clear because the criminal investigation of Nassar by Attorney General Bill Schuette has not concluded.
Lawsuits against MSU, USA Gymnastics and Nassar include allegations that as early as 1997 women and girls raised concerns about Nassar to former MSU gymnastics coach Kathie Klages or university trainers. These allegations have been central to the calls for independent investigations.
While Klages' name isn't included in the police report released to the State Journal this week, Cody confirmed that she was interviewed by MSU police during the Nassar investigation.
Klages has previously denied that she was told about Nassar.
Hollis, who has been MSU's athletics director since 2008, was interviewed on March 14 and told law enforcement that he had almost no interaction with Nassar and couldn't recall if he ever met the former doctor in person, according to the police report.
Law enforcement met with William Strampel, who was Nassar's boss for several years, hours before meeting with Hollis.
Strampel, who stepped down as dean of the College of Osteopathic medicine this month for medical reasons, set up with Nassar the three protocols for his return to clinical duties after the close of MSU's Title IX investigation in 2014. Those protocols included having another person in the room during procedures of "anything close to a sensitive area" and modifying procedures to have "little to no" skin-to-skin contact.
The State Journal reported on Tuesday that Strampel told police earlier this year that he only told one other person about the protocols and didn't feel he needed to follow up to ensure Nassar was compliant.
However, the one other person Strampel told police he informed about the protocols, Dr. Douglas Dietzel, indicated to police that he wasn't aware of them.
"During the allegation in 2016, Dietzel said that Strampel came over and met with them and told them about the complaint," MSU police Lt. Christopher Rozman wrote in the report. "Strampel said that Dr. Nassar was suspended and would not see patients.
"Strampel also said that, 'Larry didn't follow the guidelines that were put in place after the 2014 investigation. Dietzel said when he heard that he thought, 'How do we enforce those things when we didn't even know about them' referring to the guidelines."
Destiny Teachnor-Hauk, who like Lemmen was interviewed by Moore during the 2014 Title IX investigation and backed Nassar, was given Nassar's responsibilities of athletic trainer in charge of MSU's women's gymnastics and rowing teams after the university fired Nassar.
She spoke with MSU police and the FBI on March 15 about when she knew about early Nassar allegations.
Teachnor-Hauk told police she had never been told by an athlete that Nassar performed intervaginal procedures or that he made them feel uncomfortable. She did tell police that when she heard athletes say Nassar was in their private area, she would use a model of the pelvis to "redirect" them to understanding what Nassar was doing.
Several of the medical professionals that police spoke to commented that Nassar was known to be very thorough with his charting and documentation.
Many of the women and girls who are suing MSU, USA Gymnastics and Nassar over sexual assaults during medical appointments have said in court filings that their medical records were devoid of any references to what Nassar has since called medical procedures and what they say is sexual abuse.
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